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Trans 1) Remodeling: Getting Started Trans
2) Demolition and Framing
3) Plumbing and Electrical
4) Drywall and Soffits
5) Cabinets
6) Countertops
7) Flooring
8) Electrical Fixtures
9) Plumbing Fixtures and Appliances

Remodeling Kitchens: Plumbing & Electrical

Removing kitchen plumbing

Many kitchen remodels involve moving or extending existing plumbing and electrical runs. In some areas, local building codes may require you to hire licensed plumbers and electricians to do the work.

In any case, there are definite health, safety, and code issues involved in a kitchen remodel so consult your local building officials before starting.

They can tell you the codes and specific requirements dictating pipe and wire sizes, types of fittings and electrical boxes, the number of fixtures allowed on a run, and how much framing you can cut/drill out to make the necessary runs.

The following synopsis will give you a sense of what's involved and whether it's part of the project you want to handle yourself or hire out.

 

Locating Fixtures

The first step for both plumbing and electrical rough-ins is to determine where the new fixtures will go so new runs can be laid out.

A new sink, for example, will usually be installed over a base cabinet and countertop. The sink plumbing and garbage disposer and dishwasher electrical circuits are generally run up the wall to where the cabinet will be installed.

Other electrical circuits are needed for each of the other major appliances. So determine locations for those receptacles first.

 

Drain-Waste-Vent (DWV) Rough-Ins

Dean Johnson with DWV pipesThe DWV pipes are usually laid first because they're big, and it's easier to fit the water supply pipes and the electrical cables around them than vice versa.

The drain and vent pipes are most commonly plastic, either ABS (which is black) or PVC (which is white). We don't recommend mixing the types, because they expand/contract at different rates so leaks could develop. If you do join ABS and PVC, use mechanical fittings rather than glue.

 

 

If you're remodeling an existing kitchen and putting the new sink in the same spot as the old, just re-use the old DWV pipes. And if you're relocating the new sink just a bit, gluing short extensions on the existing pipes may work best.

Plumbers usually start runs at the top of the vent and work their way down. They run pipe across attic joists to the kitchen area, drill through the framing above the sink wall and run pipe down into the stud cavity.

Dean Johnson in front of DWV run through on second floorIf it's a two-story home, a small opening in an upstairs wall is often needed to glue the fitting and complete the run through the second floor.

The vent is cut so a glued on T-fitting will line up about 24 inches above the kitchen floor. A few inches of pipe are "stubbed out" to extend beyond the drywall and later connects to the drain pipe. But it's usually capped at this stage to prevent sewer gas from seeping into the house.

A hole is drilled through the bottom plate in the same stud cavity and through the sub-floor to run the drain pipe down into the basement.

From there the pipe has to be run at a downward slope (at least 1/4" per foot) to the soil stack where it's joined with another hubless T-fitting. Usually, one or more joists are drilled to allow for the run.

TIP: Remember to leave at least 5/8" of solid wood on each side of any holes you drill in the framing for strength and firestop the holes after running the pipe with insulation or mineral fiber to keep fire from spreading floor to floor.

 

Water Supply Rough-In

Dean Johnson holding water pipesHot and cold water pipes are usually copper, though plastic is sometimes used where codes allow. They have to run from the sink wall in the kitchen back to an existing set of pipes, usually in the basement. They're often run up into the same stud space as the DWV pipes but not always.

Holes are drilled through the bottom plate and floor. Each pipe runs up a foot or so into the stud space, is stubbed out a couple inches into the room and sealed shut with a cap.

In the basement, the pipe is run back to the source pipes with long pieces running between the joists and short coupled pieces going through the joists. A T- fitting is cut into each line to make the connections—after turning the water off, of course.

TIP: To avoid tearing into the walls to run new plumbing, you can often run the pipe alongside the wall and later frame a soffit or a false column or beam to hide it. Just remember to firestop the holes in the top and bottom plates.

 

 

Electrical Rough-In

GFCI Outlet Earlier, we talked about determining the locations of each fixture as the first step in each rough-in, and that means nailing an electrical box to the studs and joist for every receptacle, light and telephone (don't forget those!).

For recessed lights there's a special box to use, and for ceiling fans you need another special box or 2x4 blocking to reinforce a regular box.

The lights can usually run on one 15-amp circuit, but generally you'll also need two 20 amp circuits for small countertop appliances and the refrigerator. GFCI protection is needed on all receptacles for countertop use.

The disposer and the dishwasher each need dedicated 15 amp circuits (although codes in some areas allow them to share one circuit). A 50-amp circuit is needed for the range and possibly a dedicated 20 amp circuit for the microwave oven. The 15-amp circuits can be wired with 14/2 wire, but the 20-amp circuits require 12/2 cable and the 50-amp circuit requires 6/3 cable.

running electrical cableOne common way to run each circuit is to start at the last fixture, drill all the holes necessary to run the cable to the other fixtures and continue all the way back to the service panel.

Then leave the box of cable at the last fixture. Unwind enough cable to get started and then pull it through the holes in the framing down to the service panel.

Loop a couple extra feet through any other fixture box on the same run and leave a few feet extra at the panel for later making the final tie-in.

On long runs, you'll have to go back to the source periodically to pull the cable through. You can cut the cable at the source after reaching the panel with the other end, but leave a foot for connecting your devices later on. Fold it back into the box for now, though, to keep it out of the way.

3 way light switchCable for the lights, of course, can end at the switch boxes, and you can run cable from the switches back to the panel. By the way, if you want a 3-way switch controlling a light (switches at two different spots), run the supply cable (typically 14-2) to one box.

Run another cable with a third lead wire (14-3) from the first box to the second box. Run another cable to the lights (14-2) from the second box. Then later when you connect the cables to 3-way switches, they'll work together turning the lights on and off.

NOTE: If you're installing recessed lights, be sure to connect them before installing drywall, since the connections are usually up above the box itself. Always use wire nuts to join the like-colored wires in the junction box.

 

Plumbing & Electrical Inspections

Whether you hire a licensed plumber and electrician or do the job yourself, work must be inspected before covering the walls so be sure your local building officials are called in before you move on. Otherwise, you may have to remove the wall surface to prove the plumbing and wiring are up to code.

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